Lin Peirui interview
Southern Weekly full version of the full interview with Lin Peirui
Lin Peirui Profile:
Lin Peirui (Perry Link), American scholar, was born in 1944 in South Carolina, one thousand nine hundred seventy-six Doctor of Philosophy from Harvard University. Academic Versatile, the main research of modern Chinese literature, social history, popular culture, the early twentieth century Chinese popular fiction, and literature in China after Mao. fluent in Chinese, French, Japanese, served as University of California, Los Angeles, Professor of East Asian, East Asian Studies at Princeton University professor, is a professor of the University of California Riverside.
American Sinology through many difficult this was another fate of the Lin Peirui .
his Chinese teacher is the master of modern linguistics, Zhao's daughter, Harvard University Professor Zhao Rulan mm; and he himself completed the undergraduate and graduate studies at Harvard after he studied under the authority of the United States Fairbank Professor of Chinese Studies class, got a Harvard PhD in East Asian Studies, doctoral dissertation, Introduction of foreign students in the apprentice position, but also was the world can pronounce the first stage Jingqiang foreigners speaking Chinese comic dialogue.
Although it is difficult to find an American Standard Mandarin will be to such an extent, this back two first, this is still 65 years old man said modestly, to the word catch up with the genius of ordinary people. In an interview, Lin Peirui talking about, simply because the French second language elective, I felt too easy, would like to repair a little difficult language, so he chose the Chinese that the door to foreigners around the world are recognized as the most difficult language to learn
fact that interest in and family background related. Linpei Rui big in New York governor, his father served as the New York State University history professor, also a Chinese and a strong interest in Chinese culture Americans, and Lin himself has married two wives in China. He taught at Princeton University, when the office is set too quaint, or even a movie, br> 2010 �� 4 25, at Princeton University's beautiful campus, while he was attending the World Chinese Language Teaching in Princeton, participants will be gaps to be an exclusive interview with this reporter over the age of sixty is still hale and hearty, slang, take-it looks sort of a sly sort of smile. once said of his whom to settle down on China, said of his daydream about those whom the Chinese friends, and his look will reveal not in cover the concerns and sad.
scholar at Yale University, Su-Wei of Chinese view, he taught at the Yale students, the Beijing intellectual style of the , Lin Peirui also deeply involved in the situation in the history of Sino-US relations. In the 70's era of Sino-US ping-pong diplomacy, he served as the delegation's U.S. visit of Chinese ping-pong in Chinese translation; in the 80's honeymoon in Sino-US relations, he served as Director of the Office National Academy of Sciences in China. In 21 years ago, he Fang Lizhi and Li Shuxian to the U.S. embassy refuge.
decades since the 70 dynasties of Chinese society between the real observation and understanding of China and the Chinese from the heart of the sincere love of fate, makes him the same dimensional absolute sincerity of many of his Chinese friends at home and abroad, these precious friendship, as well as the rapid development of the online world, but also for his breakthrough last decade or geographic resulting from the diaphragm to provide a great convenience.
both in the beautiful town of Princeton or the University of California, Riverside campus, Lin Peirui have never stopped observing and China's continuing problems in China The sharp thinking. Su-Wei He then judge the relationship with China.
Lin Peirui Interview:
a, Han and Wang Shuo
Southern Weekly: You study the earliest of the early Republic of China Mandarin Duck and Butterfly fiction, these novels to the main scene in Shanghai. to the late 90s of last century, also in Shanghai, appeared to Wei Hui, rain, as the representatives of the so-called Inheritance and collusion?
Lin Peirui: First one difference is that the text than the Mandarin Duck and Butterfly Classical style to writing. Another basic Mandarin Duck and Butterfly are men, although they also have several women's magazines, but also in the care of male writers. Mandarin Duck and Butterfly School different is never any the same place. such as Mandarin Duck and Butterfly School often triangular love story structure, the two women supporting women and traditional women represent new, a man like the new women and representatives dealing with the West, adventure new culture, but in the end and representatives Oriental traditional women to get married. traditional women are more flat, boring and even children, but after all reliable, does not represent any risk or threat. in Wei Hui's novel is the same, but the main character into a woman, two men in a supporting role, Mark sexy sort of barbaric, on behalf of Western tastes; another that Chinese male, Wenzhou Zhou, and sexuality in general, representative of traditional Chinese man. from the 20th century, the age of 10 to 90 years in Shanghai, the change of course more, but still popular fiction like through the 80's a lot of play is very famous. how do you view his work and his influence in China?
Lin Peirui: I first get to know his work, people who know him after I was .1979 visiting scholar at the Sun Yat Sen University , he acted in campus open play Writers have proposed to the local leaves and sand to meet new, people say, of a contemporary writer. In addition to his plays, in recent years, he left the deepest impression is that in 2006 he wrote an article Wanzhou events in 2004, Sha asked, Q to the point, excellent.
Southern Weekly: Also in Shanghai, China's contemporary writers, the Han Internet users in China has a very large appeal, do not know if you noticed that after eighty young people?
Lin Peirui: Han I read his blog, it is like he is a talent, language is not gorgeous, but a strong sense of logic and sense of humor, but also point to the sensitive stuff, do not touch, but played very edge ball standards, allowing many people vent. I remember him in ; many views do not need to speak out thoroughly, my role is to give them the opportunity to vent There are also some different views, such as in accordance with the , that is: Let us have fun, we do not challenge your right to administer the country. Han to sharp criticism of the government and institutions, but at the fact he is just a dissatisfaction with the energy of young people into consumerism, voluntary participants in the program. ; how you look at the peer's view?
Linpei Rui: I do not agree. Han with the Communist Party an Three users events), click-through rate was so high, even with the incredible will welcome him officially a Time Magazine Many such means the possibility of emotional drive fermentation contemporary Chinese society, it is possible to play a leading role in some degree of public?
Lin Peirui: parties may not like him, but so many people followed him, more difficult. I think Han and past the famous public intellectuals who at this point is not the same, the previous well-known that gas although the public are great, but only intellectuals. Unlike Han, fans across the different sectors of society. suppress the words of Han will provoke more civil response, I think the Government can not but consider this, so many people envy him, to suppress can be expensive.
Southern Weekly: If you have the opportunity to meet Han, you want him to say something What?
Lin Peirui: mainly asked questions about recent developments and future issues in China, because I have not been to China this decade and would like to hear people's ideas, especially values, believe in hopes, the old official ideology is basically dead, except for the interest to participate in its discourse structure, but the real depths of his heart the values of private friends what?
the surface, nothing more than the value of the Chinese nation in the materialistic doctrine, but the traditional seems to agree with the daily life of a normal human values, such as the TV series where the values of people still prefer honest.
Han Han's blog post was damaged, but the loss under the valuable, ancient and modern irony was successful because there are values in it. Shuo works very damaged, there are times he came to New York I tea with him, I asked him what is your bottom line, values of what he would not say, I do not blame him. But compared to Wang Shuo, Han Han at the end house I feel some more obvious positive values.
Southern Weekly: 2006 magazine interview, you accept, Wang Shuo has been the language of praise is good, lively and true, there is infectious. You just said that Han's blog is damaged, language, sense of logic and sense of humor, very strong. with a view of Wang Shuo and the Han these two generations of young (and perhaps also Wang Xiaobo middle), there is some inheritance relations. how do you see?
Lin Peirui: About Han and Wang Shuo, Han Han prefer walking a fine line, but at least he is willing to rub the ball, but Wang Shuo's satire is more general, such as sentenced to three things Internet users, although not highlighted, or walking a fine line, but he said a specific thing, we all know what he said, in this respect him more than the resistance value of Wang Shuo. So Wang Shuo is a comparison more abstract characters in the novel things with shadow, but that is a shadow, there is no specific thing. Another example is Han recently wrote the World Expo, the reporter interviewed him, and this may not be very sensitive issue, but specific, nor is the shadow. This is the difference between them.
Wang Xiaobo's novels and essays, I'm sorry, I think I see enough, think about not valuable.
Southern Weekly: You mentioned Do you think the characters are even sought after recognition of the Chinese audience, this is their sustenance in the traditional values of Chinese culture? eager to return to these values?
Lin Peirui: I'm interested in why the promise more than three viewers will recognize the character . He was not an exemplary life, but the audience is clearly sympathetic to his simple, or even agree with him. Why? he does not represent the Olympic Games, nationalism, materialism, and so on. he was almost the opposite. Some people say that is a departure from the official values of the rebel, I do not dare to say that. I think it is the pursuit of traditional and universal values. does not necessarily go where noble gentleman behavior, and so on. I think that is just an ordinary value: to be honest, to say the truth and fair to others. promise more than three representatives is these values. people are not handsome, no girlfriend, no big business, no money. He only his integrity, his simplicity, his endurance. He shows the audience what so popular? that the audience yearning for kinds of values.
Chinese readers of literary works previously used to sustenance own values. such as the scar literature period, the report of Liu Binyan literature published, Penn Yan's contribution is to write out the details, analysis of the Octavia corruption process. people already know that Chinese society is full of corruption, do not need to tell them that Bin Yan. However, the details of Bin Yan to write so clearly and moral point of view, there is courage to publish it to the reader to get a lot of sympathy and support. Bin Yan wrote a small town northeast of the country who wrote to say, you can actually write something of our place, the people and the Chinese and the pursuit of an honest (honesty ) the value of this common response, with Liu's work and to express their dissatisfaction with the pursuit.
In a way, I think Han's blog also played that role.
Southern Weekly: In recent years , in addition to Han and the , Shen, Wu Zuxiang and Wen, Xiao Hong, Zhang Ailing, Pai Hsien-yung, Chen Ruoxi, Liu Pin-yen, GAO Xiao students, Cheng, Ge Fei, Hu Fayun. certainly there are some I do not remember a moment. In addition, Ha Jin (Xuefei) I also like, though he wrote in English do not write Chinese, but the inner life of the Chinese writing is excellent.
reading vision in recent years, in addition to Han, I also like Hufa Yun, Ji-rope, Hu wrote, Yan. com part. As for Han, University of California at Berkeley have a website dedicated to introduce and translate his blog, I do not know whether we can out of a collection. Zhang Yihe's also good, but I do not have to see, she recalled the fifties those are very good.
Jia in the Most have the impression the film is I did not see the establishment of the relationship between sex, the second to see it to understand, this is the clip of the price. can not say that they do not know, but part of a comprehensive understanding of deletions.
In addition, a few days before my night read online as part of flower to the main reaction is that the surface and superficial things. I do not know when China will sit down and look at Traitors, was living in occupied areas where there are a lot of people with the compromise with Japan, which is a historical fact, many people also follow the Communist Party compromise, by his air, and cooperation. Eileen Chang and Hu Lancheng also have their political background, not to say that Zhang written are br> (b), past and present
Southern Weekly: Internet users in China, it seems, the Chinese Writers Association possessor of contemporary writers, especially the professional writers, whose image has been difficult to say have a moral appeal to accept magazine interview .2006 , you also mentioned that Chinese writers in the 80's when a little Zhongyan the role of writers is more lovely .80 compared to the present since the late disappointment. but the problem is difficult to generalize, there are always exceptions, such as Hu Fayun, Han.
Southern Weekly: September 2009, you received in Riverside the media, have talked about 90 years since the young generation of Chinese intellectuals and all the atmosphere of the money expressed deep disappointment. your experience of 80 years in China, it was written in the spirit of the famous , a young Chinese intellectuals Xu Zhiyuan recent evaluation of the book, saying that talk, they no longer interested in talking about. then prevailing sense of crisis, has already become a popular carnival, cool feeling, and ridicule. ; Beijing Night Talk how to improve what our country.
Broadly speaking, young people since the nineties there is a change. generation after generation of Chinese young people are holding the ideal, which is a characteristic of young Chinese. However, in recent This generation of young people who sometimes hard to find this thing. I'm young now, that is, education beyond the nineties generation, really disappointed.
, of course, I do not want to say one hundred percent of today's intellectuals there is no idealism, too. aforementioned Hufa Yun and Yang Ji rope is an example. Many human rights lawyers, journalists say the truth, environmental is a matter of degree relatively worse, not absolute.
Southern Weekly: Could you expand that to say you are young intellectuals of today's years, I have observed mainly to the United States of Chinese students and graduate students. Of course there are exceptions, but generally, these graduate students, and ages of young Chinese intellectuals different, talk about social ideals, only to pursue their own interests, be willing to accept China's democratic and social disparities in the status quo of China, the Communist Party is willing to cultivate the kind of identity (narrower) nationalism. I really am disappointed to see them.
example: last year in a seminar, I met a Chinese graduate student. She is one the best universities in the United States to study, who apparently is very smart. is the official school students considered conditions are not ripe, it will be hell broke loose democracy, we have to wait years or decades to democracy.
I asked her: If Zhongnanhai democracy immediately announced tomorrow, would you stand up and say, No, conditions are ripe, the government this reference is wrong ? Or with the official version only? intellectuals should be She said, sooner or later democracy. their own interests, said she was a surface, then climb a ladder to. I understand her, but compared to previous years are the ideal young Chinese had to be said to represent a regrettable step backward.
Southern Metropolis Weekly : For now, do you think this trend continued for 20 years, there have been signs of change? your old friend, Columbia University, Department of East Asia, Mr Andy was in 2002 wrote an for this system continues to the present study provides a theoretical analysis framework, what do you think his comments made this article?
Lin Peirui: Andy brother of right, than the Mao era and 80's, the original ideology has become a huge organization of interest groups, and the inner workings of interest groups more big dictatorship, more as a puppet of bureaucracy, or a large interest group called the Special Envoy.
but the stability of this model l r in the end how much? my confidence on this issue is not Andy so strong. I think may not be very stable, I guess interest groups themselves do not believe that is so stable, otherwise why put them out of the accumulated wealth of hard transport? our house in Southern California, there are many wide, inside the home to the young
Southern Weekly: As a linguistics expert, you mentioned several times the official language and the difference between non-official languages, and people all walks of life how to adjust themselves to adapt to the requirements of the official orthodoxy. You also devoted to China's official everyday language the official language and the distinction between language and official language of oppression and violation of the public. You can even find Cource, Seven, etc. in the rhythm of the Chinese there is a special role, so the narrator's tone became more authority, more noble. would like to ask you is that now Internet users in mainland China network of talented contributions to numerous languages, such as mud horse, crab, Mahler next door and so on, there are comments that the emergence of such a network language, to some extent language is the official language of the people revolted against the orthodox ideology also played a role in deconstruction. do not know if you noticed this phenomenon, how to evaluate? whether these new networks will also put your Chinese language classrooms?
Lin Peirui: Internet language is part of the language. so I have some Chinese students after the foundation, I would like to introduce the language to their understanding of the network. Generally speaking, American students like to learn the language. In recent years, the Chinese government established in the world sing a different tune. mastered basic Chinese later, they will be like
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Southern Weekly: intellectuals seems to mainly 80's, I noticed that Mo Yan, Zhang Yiwu, and so the answer is very interesting. you are also in the My question is, to your observation, the extent to which this self-censorship hinders the creative freedom of writers? this self-censorship, from 80 to 90 years since the three years, with or without a change in the curve?
Lin Peirui: At least Mo Yan's answer was clearly a self-censorship. I admire Vaclav Havel, a reference to: if there is a secondary consideration, that the truth itself, gave me one of the most precious freedom, The can only be large or small, each individual is different degree of exposure, even overseas scholar. I actually speed review purposes.
in China, I think the 80's rather vague boundaries of self-censorship, and now more clearly. such as the 83-year Crown pollution wide, sometimes even unnecessary. But now more than clear boundaries. such as five hundred thirty-five, the Dalai Lama, Xinjiang, Taiwan independence issue, FLG, top leaders of corruption, the Great Leap Forward famine and other disasters, and so Mao era have the restricted area very clear. As long as around these topics, the tension on is not as great. in general they do not touch these people, how to sing and dance all right eating and drinking.
Southern Weekly: At the same time, there is another different views. such as Jin Jiefu that and more abundant, growing trend of creative vitality, but Linpei Rui, Du Maike, Xiaofeng Xia, and their colleagues focused on the review. never can be like a new era of literature as literature, summed up the lead a time of political debates, Contemporary Chinese Literature in the West in the evaluation system, Lin Peirui emphasize the balance between politics and art has never been resolved. understanding will lead to the deviation of their art?
Lin Peirui: Jinjie Fu is my old classmates and old friends, but I understand politics and art is not opposed, in the great works I think the two are not contradictory. Xun The novel is a very clear example. Lu Xun concerned about Chin also are good examples. The key is the so-called Art break the source of evil is not a writer because of political conscience, but the the story of ordinary people, but the underlying meaning of some human and social problems, including some readers think of the I agree that the political novel inside. I think Gao Xiaosheng not explain the problem. a question that is the whole problem, many people took part, including me. Liu Binyan also said something similar, that from one angle he was grateful to be labeled a rightist, or he can not guarantee that after the Cultural Revolution, He will not go along with the mainstream harm other vulnerable groups. very few people to like them will reflect the height.
So I think it would impede on the political art of this debate, does not make sense. This is a pseudo-proposition Sometimes, some people tried to use this time to guide writers to avoid writing off his political conscience.
Southern Weekly: 80 you like these writers, a considerable part later went into exile overseas. do not know if you noticed the creation of their exile status? In your opinion, on the literature of exile mainly in what ways?
Lin Peirui: exile, there are two, one is voluntary, such as Ernest Hemingway, he voluntarily left the United States live in Europe and Cuba. one is not voluntary, such as the age group of 80 Chinese writers. As for the impact of exile on the literature, I think the advantages and disadvantages. Lee is able to maintain its independence, such as Vaclav Havel said ;, in exile in the case of relatively easy to achieve; drawback is that the diaphragm out of the soil and most of his readers. on the middle-aged Chinese writers in exile, this problem is particularly great. Su Xiaokang, Zheng Yi, and Liu Pin-yen has died have had this problem to some extent also the poet Bei Dao, and a lot of experience before. Zheng Yi and Su Xiaokang continue to write essays and reviews, readers do not have so much more, but the article is still very high quality.
China's exiled writers and political thinkers have a feature, basically do not take the time to learn English. Jeong, Su Xiaokang, Hu Ping, Yan home their, Guo Luoji, Chen Kuide, has died Liu Pin-yen, Wang Ruowang, etc are examples (there are to rely on his wife to help them cope with the English world). I mention this not to criticize them, but can be said to admire their spirit. I think they do not learn English and roots awareness of a relationship, their roots are in the Chinese world. They want to , and love, are all Chinese. This is a phenomenon of irony, these very patriotic people, and finally had to leave the country. or that they just love this country too, so had to leave. and those who are corrupt officials, a handful of fishing in the country then money to the United States to buy a house, really shaped ...
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